I first encountered this article on Jihad Watch, but I have my own comments on the subject. First - the title:
Hints?! within the article it says:
He reported that after prayers at a neighborhood mosque, there were often private classes that included discussions about bombing different areas.
That's not a Hint!!! That's a god damn plot! Which mosques?! We can now assume it is any local mosque anywhere in the USA. Has anyone shut them down and jailed their officials?!
More troubling is that it's an undercover NY cop - not the FBI. Who exactly is engaged in guarding this country? It is high time every mosque has it's own undercover agent, because as it is well apparent - the only question remaining is not which mosque is engaged in promoting terror, but which one isn't.
Second, while I'm not looking at a hard copy of the newspaper, having it listed on the website as "crime" gives me the feeling it is not front-page - rather a section devoted to crime. Let's leave the debate to whether or not Islamic Terror is just a matter of crime for another day though. (How about "National Security"?)
As the global war on terror approaches the start of its eighth year, the NYPD says it has never been more prepared - but also warns that the city can never let its guard down. In a two-part series, Daily News reporter Patrice O'Shaughnessy looks at the terror threat in New York - and around the world. Sunday's installment focuses on an NYPD undercover officer who dug deep into the potential terrorists in our midst.
A young undercover city detective spent four years in the shadowy world of terrorist wanna-bes - taking part in jihadist discussions and training in parks in the dead of night - to get a handle on the homegrown threat.
At great personal risk, he participated in everything from prayers at a mosque to martial arts training under cover of darkness to watching jihadist videos, with many of the activities laced with talk of killing, according to a source familiar with the undercover's investigations.
His experiences paint a vivid portrait of the potential for local terror. While the picture is in no way indicative of the city's Muslim population as a whole, it provides insight into its most radical element.
Are you kidding me? Talk about contradictions. How is this not indicative?
The detective spent his time interacting with informal groups of youths and men who shared extremist views - and his experiences illustrate what police say is the potential for radicalization of some elements in the community.
He reported that after prayers at a neighborhood mosque, there were often private classes that included discussions about bombing different areas.
I already quoted this above, but it's worth reading again and again. Classes? That means the Imams (who are probably Wahabi agents from the Saudi government) are enticing members of the community to commit murder against fellow Americans!
The men discussed violent jihad in bookstores, private houses and on buses en route to paintball and shooting-range events.
He was invited to join in "bonding" activities like working out at a gym and martial arts training in parks at night, during which the group discussed ideological justifications for killing Westerners.
He also watched military movies and jihadist videos with groups of young men in private homes. During one such evening, one man got so excited he punched a wall.
The detective reported that some youths became extremists after they traveled to their home countries; others went on the hajj - the pilgrimage to Mecca - and came back fired up by imams who encouraged violence as a religious obligation.
There they are - the Saudis again... a friendly nation? To whom? Perhaps all travel back and forth by non-diplomats aught to be prohibited?
Just how many "youths" were "radicalized" here? I would very much appreciate to know a number. How many are not "radicalized" - just listen to hate speech week after week and keep silence with utter indifference to the dangers posed to their non Muslim neighbors.
Others, after visiting relatives abroad, became enraged at their family's living conditions and blamed the U.S. for supporting nondemocratic governments.
That't right... they want to blow up infidels because their families are poor. Nothing to do with the hateful ideology they consume. It's always America's fault that Arab countries are retarded. (Not just third world dumps - retarded - there I said it).
Although the youths talked about ways to attack the U.S., they lacked a strong leader who could help them follow through on a plan, the detective reported.
The undercover, a Muslim who came to America from Bangladesh when he was 7, gave only a glimpse of his work as an undercover when he testified during the trial of the Herald Square bomb plotters, the only known New York City homegrown plot to reach the jihadization stage.
The groups the detective interacted with resemble the "bunches of guys" that Marc Sageman, a noted terrorism authority and new scholar-in-residence at the NYPD, says are the real concern. His position has stirred a debate among security analysts.
While some experts contend the chief threat is Al Qaeda, Sageman, author of "Leaderless Jihad," contends the threat comes more from radicalized individuals who meet and scheme in their neighborhoods and on the Internet.
I'll add this book to my wish-list... to read ASAP:
"We're still very much learning about our enemy," said Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly. "Sageman will help us do that. He was with the CIA, a consultant to France and Spain. He's a heavyweight."
While the homegrown threat is real, "An attack from afar by Al Qaeda is always a possibility," Kelly emphasized.
Intelligence analysts for the department have compiled a report, "Radicalization in the West," that "conceptualized the whole notion of the homegrown threat," said David Cohen, deputy commissioner of intelligence. The Internet as training ground and recruitment tool for homegrown radicals is strong, Cohen said, but the number of jihadist Web sites - up from a dozen in 1998 to more than 5,000 now - has probably flattened out.
"Along with expanding computer investigations done by the cyber unit, we have expanded our human program," Cohen said, referring to traditional undercover detective work. The detective appeared in Brooklyn Federal Court two years ago as the final witness at the four-week trial of Shahawar Matin Siraj, 23, a Pakistani immigrant who was convicted of plotting to blow up the Herald Square subway station during the Republican National Convention in 2004.
The detective was not involved in that case, but testified that he had come across Siraj during his undercover work.
Testifying under the fake name of Kamil Pasha, he said he was taken from the Police Academy in October 2002 to be a "walking camera," eyes and ears, among Muslims. He interacted with groups in Brooklyn and elsewhere in the city.
The detective has been involved in "numerous" investigations for the intelligence division, part of a cadre of undercovers who act as listening posts.
"We don't target a group as a whole; we look for patterns of behavior, travel, training," Cohen said.
Too bad. You should. There's no reason not to target the Muslim community as they are the only logical suspect of "Islamic Terror". If someone told you he was assaulted by a man speaking nothing but dutch (true hypothetical here) - would you target any other community than the dutch for investigation?
The NYPD has studied attacks in Europe to enhance its understanding of the homegrown threat. For example, the July 7, 2005, London subway bombings that killed 52 people drove home the issue of plotting being done outside the target area. The attack plan was hatched in Leeds - more than 150 miles from London.
"We drew a 200-mile perimeter around the city, and we work with all the local police agencies from Maryland to Canada," Cohen said.
"We have our ear to the ground," Kelly said. "We are aware of the possibility of a threat to this city developing very close to home."
Again I'll ask - who is supposed to do these investigations? New Yorkers are damn lucky to have such figures in their NYPD who take actions and preempt the next home grown Jihadi attack. I'm not so sure the rest of the country is as prepared - and since this problem crosses the borders of NY state, it sounds like this should be handled by some federal agency.... but what do I know - right?
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